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Showing posts with label Marsh. Show all posts

Tuesday, 20 April 2021

Lincolnshire bow back stick back Windsor armchair, 8 long sticks, 6 short, turned underarm supports, straight seat sides, ring and cove turned front legs with lower ring, H stretcher with 6 round bobbins, stamped MARSH, from the workshop of MARSH SLEAFORD


Lincolnshire bow back stick back Windsor armchair, 8 long sticks, 6 short, turned underarm supports, straight seat sides, ring and cove turned front legs with lower ring, H stretcher with 6 round bobbins, stamped MARSH, from workshop of MARSH SLEAFORD; front view

This chair turned up in a south Lincolnshire auction in October 2020: even were it not stamped 'MARSH', there are several features which point to Thomas Marsh and his son James. That linked post, which has more biographical details about Thomas (1777 or 1779-1844) and James (1803 - 1870) shows a stamped side chair with the 6 bobbin stretcher. Marsh is the only workshop stamp that has been found with such a stretcher.

Lincolnshire bow back stick back Windsor armchair, 8 long sticks, 6 short, turned underarm supports, straight seat sides, ring and cove turned front legs with lower ring, H stretcher with 6 round bobbins, stamped MARSH, from workshop of MARSH SLEAFORD; 3/4 view

Lincolnshire bow back stick back Windsor armchair, 8 long sticks, 6 short, turned underarm supports, straight seat sides, ring and cove turned front legs with lower ring, H stretcher with 6 round bobbins, stamped MARSH, from workshop of MARSH SLEAFORD; side view

The small chamfer at the end of the terminals of the arm bow is another characteristic Marsh workshop feature. The circular scribe line just visible on the side stretchers to mark the junction point with the cross stretchers is another Marsh workshop habit.


Lincolnshire bow back stick back Windsor armchair, 8 long sticks, 6 short, turned underarm supports, straight seat sides, ring and cove turned front legs with lower ring, H stretcher with 6 round bobbins, stamped MARSH, from workshop of MARSH SLEAFORD; rear view

Another Marsh workshop practice was to pin some of the long sticks with small square wooden pins from the rear of the bows: this chair has two such pins to secure 2nd and 7th long sticks to the back bow, 3 sets of holes for two more, missing the pins, on the 3rd and 6th long sticks (1st at the top in the back bow, 2nd in the arm bow and 3rd in the seat), two more, still with pins, to secure the back bow to the arm bow, and finally 4 more holes, two in the back bow and two in the seat, which appear to have been drilled in the wrong place as they do not align with any of the long sticks, unlike their companions. A momentary lapse of concentration on a Friday afternoon, perhaps.


Lincolnshire bow back stick back Windsor armchair, 8 long sticks, 6 short, turned underarm supports, straight seat sides, ring and cove turned front legs with lower ring, H stretcher with 6 round bobbins, stamped MARSH, from workshop of MARSH SLEAFORD; view from above

Lincolnshire bow back stick back Windsor armchair, 8 long sticks, 6 short, turned underarm supports, straight seat sides, ring and cove turned front legs with lower ring, H stretcher with 6 round bobbins, stamped MARSH, from workshop of MARSH SLEAFORD; detail of arm turning

Lincolnshire bow back stick back Windsor armchair, 8 long sticks, 6 short, turned underarm supports, straight seat sides, ring and cove turned front legs with lower ring, H stretcher with 6 round bobbins, stamped MARSH, from workshop of MARSH SLEAFORD; view from below with detail of leg turnings and stretchers

 
Lincolnshire bow back stick back Windsor armchair, 8 long sticks, 6 short, turned underarm supports, straight seat sides, ring and cove turned front legs with lower ring, H stretcher with 6 round bobbins, stamped MARSH, from workshop of MARSH SLEAFORD; detail of stamp.

The top part of each letter of 'MARSH' is just visible at the back of the seat. There does not appear to be any sign of the 'SLEAFORD' stamp that appears on some Marsh chairs. A pair of side chairs, one of which was exhibited at the exhibition in Alford in 2019 has 'MARSH' stamped on one seat and 'SLEAFORD' on the other. All parts of this chair are of ash.

© Julian Parker 2021

Thursday, 18 June 2020

Lincolnshire comb back armchair by Marsh Sleaford, with curved crest rail, with 8 long spindles, the outer of which are turned stiles above the arm bow, which is chamfered at its ends, 6 short spindles, turned underarms, straight seat sides, ring and cove front leg turnings with 1 lower ring, plain back legs, H stretcher with darts WS 208

Lincolnshire comb back armchair by Marsh Sleaford, with curved crest rail, with 8 long spindles, the outer of which are turned stiles above the arm bow, which is chamfered at its ends, 6 short spindles, turned underarms straight seat sides, ring and cove front leg turnings with 1 lower ring, plain back legs, H stretcher with darts WS 208
This comb back Lincolnshire armchair is from the wonderful collection of former Regional Furniture Society member, James Drake. I was delighted when he said that I could include it here, as it's so important and you all will be able to appreciate it. It has an impressed name stamp towards the rear of the upper surface of the seat which reads MARSH, so from the workshop of father and son, Thomas and James Marsh of Sleaford. The legs and underarm turned supports are typical of their patterns but the chair is of overall compact proportions, the like of which I have never seen before. The particular pleasing feature are the two outside long back support spindles (stiles), which start at the seat level and pass through the armbow the continue with the decorative turning up to the back comb, an elegant touch. This could easily become my favorite Lincolnshire armchair.

© William Sergeant 2019

Tuesday, 16 June 2020

Lincolnshire hoop back Windsor side chair, Marsh of Sleaford, with 7 long spindles, bell-shaped seat, ring and cove front legs with 1 lower ring, plain back legs, H stretcher with darts WS 106

Lincolnshire hoop back Windsor side chair, Marsh of Sleaford, with 7 long spindles, bell-shaped seat, ring and cove front legs with 1 lower ring, plain back legs, H stretcher with darts WS 106


See chair WS 92 - I just knew that I would find one of these chairs with a stamp of the maker on it . This one turned up on eBay along with 3 other chairs at the very northern edge of the county of Lincolnshire. I won the bidding and was delighted to find on collection that this one was clearly stamped MARSH SLEAFORD. A bit of polishing restored this fine chair to its full glory.


© William Sergeant 2018 and 2020

Monday, 15 June 2020

Lincolnshire hoop back Windsor side chair, probably by Marsh of Sleaford, with 7 long spindles, bell-shaped seat, ring and cove front legs with 1 lower ring, plain back legs, H stretcher with darts WS 92

Lincolnshire hoop back Windsor side chair, probably by Marsh of Sleaford, with 7 long spindles, bell-shaped seat, ring and cove front legs with 1 lower ring, plain back legs, H stretcher with darts WS 92
This chair was consigned to a regular house clearance sale in Grantham and didn't even get considered for the better antiques sale.  Although there is no maker's stamp to be found on it, there are however tell-tale signs all over it which makes me believe that it was made by Thomas or James Marsh in Sleaford. There are a whole load of features that they used: darts at the either end of the cross stretcher; scratch markers on the side stretchers for the drilling of holes; thicker front leg ; thicker seats which sweep out at the front; carefully selected wood for the legs with no wild grain; tiny square sprigs driven into the back of the bow to secure the middle and two outside back spindles and finally the distance between the upper and lower rings on the front legs are always identical. Everything about their chairs was just that bit better than anything produced in the neighbouring town of Grantham. PS: after a recent visit from Bill Cotton, I can confirm what I had thought for a while: that the seats of Marsh chairs are usually made out of ash wood, as is the case here.

© William Sergeant 2018 and 2020

Monday, 8 June 2020

Medium bow back Lincolnshire Windsor armchair stamped TAYLOR GRANTHAM, turned underarm supports, 8 long spindles, 2 x 3 underarm spindles, ring and cove front leg turnings with single lower ring & plain back legs, H stretcher with cross stretcher turned with darts WS 85

Medium bow back Lincolnshire Windsor armchair stamped TAYLOR GRANTHAM, turned underarm supports, 9 long spindles, 2 x 4 underarm spindles, ring and cove front leg turnings with single lower ring & plain back legs, H stretcher with cross stretcher turned with darts WS 85
I happen to find this one at the Newark Antiques Fair and I was convinced it was made by Marsh of Sleaford but on close inspection there is a faint stamp on the rear of the seat which says TAYLOR GRANTHAM. Fortunately no one had noticed this maker's mark and it joined my collection for a very small fee. The underarm turnings are so similar to Marsh of Sleaford that only when they are stood next to each other can you spot the differences. Compare this chair with WS 29 and you will see what I mean.

Other differences are that Taylor has 8 long spindles and 6 short, whereas Marsh uses 9 long and 8 short; Marsh puts a slight chamfer on the underside of the end of the arm bow, absent from the Taylor chair. The ring on the front legs of the Taylor chair is slightly deeper than that on the Marsh.

© William Sergeant 2018 and Julian Parker 2020 

Saturday, 30 May 2020

2 x Lincolnshire comb back Windsor side chairs by Marsh Sleaford with curved crest rail, turned stiles, 5 long spindles, straight seat sides, ring and cove front leg turnings with 1 lower ring, plain back legs, H stretcher with 6 bobbin turning, H stretcher with darts WS 176

2 x Lincolnshire comb back Windsor side chairs by Marsh Sleaford with curved crest rail, turned stiles, 5 long spindles, straight seat sides, ring and cove front leg turnings with 1 lower ring, plain back legs, H stretcher with 6 bobbin turning on left, H stretcher with darts on right, WS 176
Two complementary beautifully balanced Lincolnshire Windsor side chairs by Thomas or James Marsh of Sleaford. Their turning and proportions stand out amongst Lincolnshire makers.

Angled view of Lincolnshire comb back Windsor side chair by Marsh Sleaford with curved crest rail, turned stiles, 5 long spindles, straight seat sides, ring and cove front leg turnings with 1 lower ring, plain back legs, H stretcher with 6 bobbin turning 


© William Sergeant and Julian Parker 2020 

Monday, 18 May 2020

Medium bow back Lincolnshire Windsor armchair stamped Brand Marsh Sleaford with 9 long spindles, 8 short, crook underarm supports, bell-shaped seat, ring and cove turned front legs with 1 lower ring, plain back legs, crinoline stretcher WS 164 & WS 163

Medium bow back Lincolnshire Windsor armchair stamped Brand Marsh Sleaford with 9 long spindles, 8 short, crook underarm supports, bell-shaped seat, ring and cove turned front legs with 1 lower ring, plain back legs, crinoline stretcher WS 164 

Medium bow back Lincolnshire Windsor armchair stamped Brand Marsh Sleaford  WS 163

Many thanks to Robert Williams, a fellow collector of vernacular furniture, for alerting me to the sale of this chair in Bury St. Edmunds. I had missed the pre-auction advertisement and if it not had been for the diligence of Robert this chair could have slipped back into oblivion for ever! What makes this chair so special is that it is stamped BRAND MARSH SLEAFORD, which was fortunately mentioned in the auction notes on this lot. The Sleaford chairmakers John Brand and Thomas Marsh are well known, with chairs stamped by them individually having been recorded, but this is the very first time that one has turned up with both names, indicating that they worked together in partnership for a while.  


Both appear in Pigot's Directory for 1822, John Brand as 'turner & chair maker', Thos. Marsh as 'Windsor chair maker'. Marsh died in April 1844 aged 67 and Brand on 26 March 1850 'advanced in years', according to the Stamford Mercury.  John Brand is shown in the 1841 census as then aged 55, although ages in that census are often not accurate. He seems to have been baptised in 1785 or 1786 and was thus a handful of years younger than Thomas Marsh.

I got in touch with the auction house after the sale and asked for my details to be passed on to the purchaser. In due course we made contact and I travelled to Suffolk to meet the new owner, who now appreciates the significance of this chair and will be a good custodian. I set up an improvised photographic studio in the kitchen and the result can seen above.

Description: thick elm seat with chamfered under-edges grain running from front to back. Bell shaped in plan. Cherry spindles, 8 short and 9 long, one of which is broken. Very delicate bent underarm supports secured by screw underneath. Yew wood front legs with ring and cove decoration. Plain back legs, one of yew and one with an inappropriate later replacement. Yew crinoline stretcher with two ash short connecting stretchers to back legs. There are no securing pins in the top of the back bow unlike Marsh signed chairs were they are always present. 4 pins in the armbow, two to secure the backbow and two to secure the frontmost spindles. Seat dimensions : 19 5/8 by 15 3/16 inches. A fine example of an early Lincolnshire Windsor chair.


© William Sergeant 2015 and Julian Parker 2020

Friday, 15 May 2020

3 x Lincolnshire Windsor side chairs by Marsh of Sleaford, with curved crest rail with turned stiles and 5 long spindles x 1, hoop back x 2 with 7 & 6 long spindles, 1 straight sided and 2 bell-shaped seats, ring and cove front leg turnings with 1 lower ring, plain back legs, H stretcher with darts x 2 H stretcher with 6 bobbin turning x 1 WS 116



3 x Lincolnshire Windsor side chairs by Marsh of Sleaford, with curved crest rail with turned stiles and 5 long spindles x 1, hoop back x 2 with 7 & 6 long spindles, 1 straight sided and 2 bell-shaped seats, ring and cove front leg turnings with 1 lower ring, plain back legs, H stretcher with darts x 2 H stretcher with 6 bobbin turning x 1 WS 116
All three chairs bear the maker's stamp on the rear of the upper seat: MARSH SLEAFORD. The middle chair is the same as WS 115. These chairs illustrate the beautiful balanced designs of side chairs that these father and son chair turners made. The earliest reference to Thomas Marsh being in Sleaford is 1810 (when his daughter Anne was baptised there) and his son James was still there making chairs in 1870 - a span of at least 60 years!

Right, I hope you are sitting comfortably as what you are about to read has never been published before: it's about Thomas Marsh. He was baptised in Bilborough, Nottinghamshire on 20th August 1779* to parents Hugh and Helen Marsh. I believe he had an older brother Joseph, who was baptised in Strelley, Notts in 1776 and another older brother Hugh who was baptised in 1771 at St. Michael's, Derby. He went on to marry in St Wulfram's, Grantham (which was quite usual for people from Little Gonerby) on 26th July 1802. His bride on that day was Helen Thompson who had been born at Londonthorpe (a tiny village about a mile northeast of Grantham) and on their marriage register they were both noted as living in Little Gonerby. At the time of their wedding Thomas was 22 and Helen 21. Their wedding must have been a slightly sad affair as his mother-in-law had died just the month before and had been buried in Grantham (as she had been a resident of Little Gonerby) on the 21st June 1802. Their union was soon blessed with a child as on 19th August 1803 James was baptised in St. Marys, Nottingham. The next reference that I found for them was at Little Gonerby again when the baptism of their daughter Jane was recorded on the 21st Feb 1808. At some stage they moved to Sleaford as they had a daughter Ann baptised on 11th July 1810 at Quarrington (which is often referred to as Old Sleaford).

This has left me wondering what he was doing living in Little Gonerby, marrying a local girl and then going back to Nottingham. It could be explained if he had gone to do an apprenticeship with a Master as there is a history of chairmakers there. He met and fell in love with Helen but as is usual, he was not allowed to marry until he had finished his time, and then went back to his former home with his new bride. The intrigue does not stop there as the marriage was witnessed by Richard Hubbard and his wife Elizabeth. Richard Hubbard was a chair maker in Grantham - it would be no great surprise if he turned out to have been Thomas Marsh's Master.

Thomas appears to have been a chair maker all his life, eventually being buried at Sleaford on 25th April 1844 at the age of 67.** James was died in September 1870.

Here is a short video on Marsh chairs.


© William Sergeant 2013 and 2020

* and ** This would indicate that he was born in 1777: the baptism at Bilborough in August 1779 is the only Thomas Marsh baptised in the vicinity of Nottingham at around the relevant time.

Thursday, 14 May 2020

3 x Lincolnshire Windsor chairs by Marsh of Sleaford, one high back bow back, one hoop back side chair, and one medium bow back, with 9, 7 and 9 long spindles, bell shaped seats, turned underarms x 2, ring and cove turned front legs with 1 lower ring, plain back legs, H stretcher with darts WS 115

3 x Lincolnshire Windsor chairs by Marsh of Sleaford, one high back bow back, one hoop back side chair, and one medium bow back, with 9, 7 and 9 long spindles, bell-shaped seats, turned underarms x 2, ring and cove turned front legs with 1 lower ring, plain back legs, H stretcher with darts WS 115
All three chairs bear the maker's stamp on the rear upper part of the seat: MARSH SLEAFORD. This picture demonstrates the interchangeability of component parts: the legs are all identical (accepting that the chair on the left has been reduced in height some time ago). Thomas and James Marsh developed an elegant and balanced turned leg and they stuck by it faithfully through out many years and never went for the two ring motif on later chairs as other makers did.  The underarm turnings are consistent on the two armchairs and all three chairs have the same H stretcher with darts.

© William Sergeant 2013 and 2020

Wednesday, 13 May 2020

Lincolnshire hoop back side chair, 7 long spindles, bell-shaped seat, ring and cove front leg turnings, plain back legs, H stretcher with darts WS 15

Lincolnshire hoop back side chair WS 15
Unsigned side chair showing striking similarities to chair at figure NE55 on p. 123 of Dr B D Cotton's The English Regional Chair (1990). On that basis this chair is likely to have been made in the workshop of James Marsh of Sleaford (1803 - 1870 or that of his father Thomas (1779 - 1844).

© William Sergeant 2012 and 2020

Tuesday, 12 May 2020

Comb back Lincolnshire side chair by Marsh of Sleaford with curved crest rail, turned stiles, 5 long spindles, straight seat sides, ring and cove turnings on the front legs with 1 lower ring, plain back legs and H stretcher with darts WS 14

Comb back Lincolnshire side chair by Marsh of Sleaford WS 14

Side chair with MARSH SLEAFORD impressed on upper rear surface of seat - this may relate to James Marsh (baptised 19th August 1803) who lived and worked in Jermyn St. Sleaford as a chair maker for all his life. This chair is one of a set of three that were offered for sale in a Lincoln auction in March 2001 and no mention was made in the sale catalogue that all were signed to the rear of the seat. There equally a good chance that the father of James made these chairs: his name was Thomas . The parish register of St Denys Sleaford shows Thomas's burial aged 67 on 25 April 1844. No will has yet been tracked down.

As I have said elsewhere, Marsh made really good chairs and for a very good reason. On the front page of the newly started Sleaford Gazette in the summer of 1858 there was an advertisement by Mr Darlow's Upholstery Establishment which sold cottage furniture including Windsor chairs at 2 shillings each, on South Street, Sleaford. Also on Westgate, Sleaford there was Mr William Robinson selling London, Birmingham and Sheffield goods including Windsor chairs, wholesale and retail! Messrs. Marsh must have made really good chairs at competitive prices to compete with the shops in town.


© William Sergeant 2012 and 2020 

Monday, 11 May 2020

Lincolnshire hoop back Windsor side chair stamped MARSH of Sleaford, with 6 long spindles, straight seat sides, ring and cove front legs with 1 lower ring, plain back legs, H stretcher with 6 bobbin turning WS 83

Lincolnshire hoop back Windsor side chair stamped MARSH of Sleaford, with 6 long spindles, straight seat sides, ring and cove front legs with 1 lower ring, plain back legs, H stretcher with 6 bobbin turning WS 83
I was fortunate to acquire this little gem of a chair from an antique shop in Grantham , clearly signed: MARSH SLEAFORD. I have written a few words about him at WS 29. Other chairs by him appear in Dr B D Cotton's The English Regional Chair (1990). We are all fortunate in the fact that not only did he sign a good number of his chairs but also that he made them so sturdy and elegant. James Marsh was already living in Sleaford in 1822 when his sister Sophia was born, he got married in 1836 and his first child was born there on 30th May 1841 and in due course two more daughters were born in 1843 and 1845 (Elizabeth and Emma) Sophia's death was announced in the local paper on the 20th August 1843 . Imagine the parents' joy in December 1848 at the birth of their son William, only for this to turn to utter sorrow on the death of the baby's Ann on the 10th December, followed a few days later by the infant son on 30th December. The 1851 census shows James living at 65 Jermyn St. Sleaford and working as a chairmaker and surrounded by his family: Ellen (70 ) mother and schoolmistress, Ann(40) sister and dressmaker, Elizabeth (39) sister and dressmaker along with his daughters Ann (11) , Elizabeth (8) and Emma (6). By 1871 it is assumed that James had died ( though no will has been found) as all his female family are still at the same address except for his mother and daughter Ann.

© William Sergeant 2012 and 2020

Sunday, 10 May 2020

Medium bow back Lincolnshire Windsor armchair stamped MARSH of Sleaford with 9 long spindles, 6 short, crook underarms, bell-shaped seat, ring and cove front legs with 1 lower ring, plain back legs, H stretcher WS 105

Medium bow back Lincolnshire Windsor armchair stamped MARSH of Sleaford with 9 long spindles, 6 short, crook underarms, bell-shaped seat, ring and cove front legs with 1 lower ring, plain back legs, H stretcher WS 105
Many thanks to Michael Pashby Antiques in New York City for providing this wonderful image from his stock . It was available along with 9 side chairs by the same maker - all signed. The crook underarm support is the first I have ever seen by this father and son pair of makers - it probably was made by the father (Thomas) and fully deserves to be recorded here. See WS 101 & WS 29 for chairs by the same maker.

© William Sergeant 2013 and 2020

Saturday, 9 May 2020

Lincolnshire comb back Windsor armchair, with curved crest rail, turned stiles, 7 long spindles, 8 shirt, turned underarms, bell-shaped seat sides, ring and cove front leg turnings with 1 lower ring, plain back legs, H stretcher with 6 bobbin turning WS 101

Lincolnshire comb back Windsor armchair, probably by Marsh of Sleaford WS 101

The Marsh that got away. This lovely chair was offered at auction in the autumn of 2012 just to the south of London. I was not able to view but was happy to bid on the picture alone. A signed chair by Marsh of Sleaford appears at figure NE133 on p. 135 of Dr B D Cotton's The English Regional Chair (1990) and I was sure that this was by the same maker; the row of turned bobbins on the cross stretcher and the underarm turnings are a hallmark of this maker. Unfortunately I ended up as the underbidder!

© William Sergeant 2012 and 2020

Wednesday, 22 April 2020

3 Lincolnshire bow back spindle back Windsor armchair by Taylor, Marsh and Hubbard with 8, 9 and 9 long spindles, 6, 8 and 6 short, turned underarm x 2 crook underarm x 1 straight seat sides x 2 bell shaped seat x 1, ring and cove front leg turnings with 1 lower ring, plain back legs, H stretcher x 3 darts x 2 WS 114

3 Lincolnshire bow back spindle back Windsor armchairs by Taylor, Marsh and Hubbard with 8, 9 and 9 long spindles, 6, 8 and 6 short, turned underarm x 2 crook underarm x 1 straight seat sides x 2 bell shaped seat x 1, ring and cove front leg turnings with 1 lower ring, plain back legs, H stretcher x 3 darts x 2 WS 114
These three chairs are all signed by their maker: left, Taylor of Grantham; middle, Marsh of Sleaford; right, Hubbard of Grantham. They just go to show how popular these spindle back chairs were in Lincolnshire. There are many similarities, namely: all have ring and cove front leg turnings and plain back legs, they are made out of ash except two outside ones which have elm for their seats.

© William Sergeant 2020

Saturday, 4 April 2020

William Sergeant with some of his collection of Lincolnshire Windsor and rush-seated chairs

William Sergeant with some of his collection WS 107
I was invited by the Lincolnshire Wood Turners to give an exhibition at their annual display in August 2013 . The response was most encouragin . I had a lot of interest from members of the public: many were unaware that there was a tradition of chairmaking in Lincolnshire! Several asked if the chairs were for sale and seemed disappointed when I said that I only collected chairs for academic and educational purposes.

On the display behind William: suspended in mid-air: a Marsh bow back side chair and a Marsh comb back side chair; on the dais: a Shirley/Shadford workshop Caistor rocking chair, a Lincolnshire comb back and two cabriole leg Lincolnshire rush-seated ladder back chairs; on the floor: a Lincolnshire ladder back missing its rush seat and a Grantham bow back side chair.

© William Sergeant 2013 and Julian Parker 2020

Wednesday, 25 September 2019

James Marsh, Sleaford: stamped medium bow back Lincolnshire Windsor armchair, turned underarm supports, 9 long spindles, 2 x 4 underarm spindles, ring and cove front leg turnings with single lower ring & plain back legs, H stretcher with cross stretcher turned with darts

WS 29 Marsh Sleaford

Found this one recently (May 2016) in a local antique centre and I knew immediately that it was a Lincolnshire chair - on closer inspection it became apparent that it was in excellent condition with no play in any joints and little wear for its age. The seat was covered by a red velvet fitted cushion and when I removed it there appeared a dirty mark at the rear of the seat; I rubbed the mark and I then could see letters appearing which spelled: MARSH SLEA.... No one had noticed this so I quickly negotiated the purchase and hurried out the door with it. A little research revealed it to be made by James Marsh of Sleaford. A little bit of history on James Marsh for you: he was baptised James Thompson Marsh in Nottingham in 1803. His parents were Thomas Marsh (from Nottingham) a Windsor chair maker, and Ellen Thompson of Londonthorpe (which is just outside Grantham) and they were married at St Wulfram's, Grantham in 1802. At the time of their wedding they were recorded as living at Little Gonerby (which was a tiny collection of houses on the very edge of Grantham, where the chair maker John Amos lived as well) not to be confused with Great Gonerby or Gonerby Hill Foot. Their wedding was witnessed by Richard and Elizabeth Hubbard  (signed chairs from Hubbard can be seen in Cotton's book) It's hardly surprising that he grew up to be a chair maker.  Compare with No 91.

© William Sergeant 2019

James Marsh, Sleaford: stamped high bow back Lincolnshire Windsor armchair, turned underarm supports, 9 long spindles, 2 x 4 underarm spindles, ring and cove front leg turnings with single lower ring & plain back legs, H stretcher with cross stretcher turned with darts

WS 91 Marsh Sleaford

This chair has been reduced in height by about 25mm in the past but still makes a lovely chair. It was offered for sale at a Lincoln auction and there was no mention in the description that it was clearly signed on the rear of the seat: MARSH SLEAFORD. This relates to James Thompson Marsh who lived and worked all his life in Sleaford. Compare this with No 29: it just reinforces the fact that chair makers had their own distinctive design features and repeated them faithfully, making it much easier to attribute unsigned chairs to their makers. Extra notes on Marsh: in the 1841 census of Sleaford he is noted as living at Reform Place as a chairmaker with his family and a 20 year old assistant called William. In 1851 he is recorded as being at No 65 Jermyn Street with his family and in 1871 his family are at No 40 Jermyn Strret but no record of him. However there is a reference to him in the Sleaford Gazette in 1870 as a well as a note of his workshop being sold in 1865 which appears to be sited on the West end of Boston road, Sleaford on the north-side. Adverts in the Sleaford Gazette in the 1850s tell of his chairs selling for a few shillings. Recently there came to hand a photograph from the Sleaford History Society of a row of cottages that were in Jermyn St. before they were demolished; it seems James Marsh and his family lived in the end one.


© William Sergeant 2019

Saturday, 21 September 2019

The Lincolnshire Windsor chair: its comparison to those made in the Thames Valley and Nottinghamshire at a similar time, Roger Taylor’s initial design in Grantham and its development by subsequent workshops.

Nowhere in the literature on vernacular furniture is there a definition of a Lincolnshire Windsor armchair and Christopher Gilbert in his book on vernacular furniture states that the design is a complex affair. My experience however is rather different. It became quite obvious to me several years ago, that if I entered a saleroom or antique shop which contained Windsor chairs from different regions, then at a glance I was able to identify those made in Lincolnshire. In due course this led me to analyse my thought processes, which I had come to rely upon and trust. Over many years of collecting, handling and photographically recording these chairs, I had become quite familiar with the essential features which were contained in their design and the specific pointers which define a Lincolnshire Windsor chair. This article seeks to highlight those characteristics in order to help others identify these chairs and differentiate them from those made in other regions.

First, a labelled Lincolnshire chair to show the naming of the parts:


Some terms above are not those used by the makers, but have come into common use in furniture literature over the years. By some experts, the steam-bent parts are bows and never hoops, spindles have turned decoration, and stick is reserved for plain lengths usually made with a draw-knife ) but later turned on a lathe). The slightly cumbersome term underarm support is commonly used: these were once arm stumps or arm stands. 

Second, eight other chairs, labelled to show parts that do not happen to appear in the first chair:



 No 1. The primary feature that I focus on when encountering a Windsor chair for the first time is the joint that connects the back hoop to the arm bow (in a Windsor armchair) or where the back hoop joins the seat (in a side chair). If the hoop has been pared down from a square section to a rounded tenon and it has been morticed into a hole in the arm bow or seat, then this is a very good pointer to the chair having been made in Lincolnshire - a cabinet maker may well describe this as a tapered socket joint, bored through and wedged. I know of only two signed Lincolnshire chairs where this is not the case (out of hundreds that I have recorded). The alternative method of securing this joint is by reducing the square section of the back hoop to a smaller square section tenon, which leaves a shoulder to sit on top of the arm bow. In all cases, an inspection of the underside of this joint will reveal a thin wedge driven upwards and glued, in order to prevent the joint pulling out.

Lincolnshire tapered socket joint
Thames Valley square section & square tenon


 It must be pointed out that it is possible to find chairs from the Thames Valley region which use this Lincolnshire tapered tenon, with wedged through mortice technique, though they are uncommon. Conversely, nearly all the chairs signed by Nottinghamshire makers use the same method employed by their Lincolnshire neighbours. Finally there is a group of chairs which have a provenance to Leicestershire which show both methods of construction.

No 2. The second important feature involves a close inspection of the seat and the ability to identify the difference between ash and elm wood. Based on a survey of 28 signed Lincolnshire Windsor chairs, the use of ash wood in the making of the seat is 50%. No such survey has been carried out for Thames Valley chairs but in my experience the overwhelming majority use elm in their construction. It is never safe to be guided by the auctioneer’s lot notes or the advice of a furniture dealer as some cannot readily distinguish between the two woods, often labelling all Windsor chair seats as being made of elm. The need to identify ash wood is most important as many Lincolnshire Windsor armchairs and side chairs are made entirely out of ash wood. It is also useful to be able to recognise beech wood, as this is very common in Thames Valley chairs while being almost non-existent in early Lincolnshire chairs. This is explained by the fact that beech was one of the last trees to colonize the British Isles after the last Ice Age and had only established naturally in the south of the country by the mid 1700s. The SHIRLEY seat below is made of elm while the MARSH seat below is of ash. Note that in between the growth rings of the elm there are zig-zag lines which are not present on the ash seat. The direction of travel of the seat grain is of no importance.


Elm seat
Ash seat

No 3. A pleasing feature that often appears on the leading edge of the back bow is a molding made by a scratch stock which gives the appearance of an applied bead and is called an “edge bead“. This application often appears on chairs made in the Thames Valley region and the same chairs invariably have an incised scratch edge line on the upper surface of the seat, along all sides. Both of these features are extraordinarily rare in a Lincolnshire chair but common on Thames Valley seats, but can also be found occasionally on Nottinghamshire chairs. The pictures below show a close-up of a back-bow from a Thames Valley chair, illustrating the edge bead, along with a back section of the seat from the same chair showing the incised mark.

Edge bead
Incised line on seat

No 4. The early Windsor chair makers of Lincolnshire all made spindle back chairs. However chairs by the same maker can be found with a decorative splat to replace the middle two or three spindles. I pay very little attention to the design of the back splat: they appear to be generic and rarely specific to any one workshop. Notably, the method of incorporating it into the arm bow falls into two distinct practices. The Lincolnshire and Nottinghamshire chair makers usually made the back splat in two pieces and these were morticed into a letterbox-shaped hole in the arm bow. This method is in sharp contrast to the makers from the Thames Valley who used an entirely different technique, namely to make a rebate into the leading face of the arm bow into which the splat was located and secured with dovetailed edges. This would necessitate the splat being made from one thin complete piece of timber along with its applied design. The rebate is made shallower than the thickness of the splat which results in it standing slightly proud. This is to ensure that the back bow is not weakened too much from the loss of thickness due to the rebate.


Simpson: two piece splat morticed into arm bow

Probable Prior: one piece splat fixed into rebate on arm bow

Back splats compared: top is a signed SIMPSON BOSTON. Bottom is an unsigned chair but attributed to the workshop of PRIOR UXBRIDGE. It has a one-piece splat, partly let into the face of the back bow and a roundel motif, both features associated with Thames Valley chairs.


No 5. Many of the manufacturing techniques and assembly methods of early Lincolnshire chairs were developed specifically to reduce the cost of production and these next two features clearly demonstrate this. The first is the lack of decoration on the two back legs, whereas the front legs would have a ring and cove motif; see the image of a TAYLOR stamped chair which is the picture after next below. It appears that all the Lincolnshire makers use this method on all but their best chairs, which were usually made out of yew wood and usually all four legs would be decorated. The second feature concerns the method used to secure the legs to the underside of the seat. While every one of the Lincolnshire chairs that I have recorded had their legs seated into a blind socket beneath the seat, the Thames Valley makers often used a different process, particularly before 1820, namely to drill the hole all the way through the seat and secure the leg, with a wedge, driven downwards and plainly visible, from the top surface of the seat.

No 6. Another feature worthy of note found on the chairs made by the slightly later Lincolnshire makers is the use of a two ring motif, applied to the front legs. For example, all recorded windsor armchairs stamped HUBBARD GRANTHAM have the ring and cove decoration on the front legs whereas the slightly later maker WOOD GRANTHAM had the two ring motif. The three ring design, so commonly found on the Thames Valley-made chairs, was used by the Lincolnshire makers at a much later date.

No 7. It is possible to find chairs which have two oblique spindle supporting the back bow, inclined at about 20 degrees to the vertical, to impart greater strength to the back support. This, in turn, means that a tongue of wood extends beyond the back edge of the seat, to allow these two spindles to be socketed in and secured. This is such a common feature on Thames Valley side chairs but I have only seen this practice once on a Lincolnshire counterpart and once on a Nottinghamshire chair.. Where this technique is used, then the grain of the seat has to run through the chair, never across.

The next picture shows the spindles supports at the back of an unsigned chair which displays many features associated with those manufactured in the Thames Valley. The tongue into which the two oblique spindles are socketed is clearly shown.

Oblique support spindles
No 8. Examples of Lincolnshire Windsors: the tradition of Windsor chair making in the south of Lincolnshire was started by Mr Roger Taylor in Grantham about 1800. His chair manufacturing business, which was expanded by his wife, Sophia, after his death in October 1801, produced chairs for approximately 10 years. While many chairs stamped TAYLOR GRANTHAM have been recorded, it appears that there is only one basic pattern of arm chair that was ever produced. The great majority of these have turned underarm supports and it seems likely that this workshop was the first in the country to use this method for the mass production of chairs. The reason is obvious: turned underarm supports were quicker and cheaper to produce than the traditional method of steam-bent crooked underarm supports. Subsequently, all the other chair makers in South Lincolnshire followed their example and used turned underarm supports to some extent ( there is, however, one exception to this rule: as yet, no chair stamped HUBBARD or I*HUBBARD has been found with turned underarm supports, every one recorded has a bent crook arm ). In reviewing the published literature relating to Thames Valley chairs it appears that they did not embrace this technique until many years afterwards, from 1840 onwards, and then with a different turning motif.

This chair is faintly stamped TAYLOR GRANTHAM and was produced in the workshop of Roger and Sophia Taylor (1800-1810). Everything about this design suggests that they were built to be as economical as possible with the components and assembly methods without compromising their structural integrity.

Taylor Grantham spindle back

This model set the standard which every subsequent chairmaker in the county followed, thus setting the trend that lasted for decades. Understanding the origins of the design of Lincolnshire chairs, and the market that they were built for, helps greatly in recognising unsigned chairs.

There is a distinct possibility that at least a dozen people were employed in the manufacture of chairs in their workshop and it is not surprising, that even after more than 200 years, it is not uncommon to find then offered for sale in antique shops or by auctioneers. There must have been a large demand for this type of utilitarian chair and perhaps there is a clue as to what drove this production, by understanding what was happening in England at the beginning of the 19th century. The country was in the middle of the war with France and Napoleon. Huge effort went into the recruiting, training, administration and supplying the armed forces. All this effort came to an end when the fighting ceased in 1815 and this led to a sale of the barracks along with their fixture and fittings in many parts of the country. One such sale was advertised in the Suffolk Chronicle during March 1815 at Woodbridge Barracks, everything was to be sold, including buildings, bricks, pantiles, framing and weather boarding, bedsteads, cooking boilers, urine tubs, sentry boxes and 700 Windsor chairs. This was replicated in many other towns and perhaps it was this demand, that was created by the furnishing of these barracks, that Roger and Sophia Taylor were catering for.

Typical spindle back early Lincolnshire Windsor armchair, signed MARSH SLEAFORD. Made by Thomas Marsh in his workshop at Sleaford, about 12 miles from the workshop of Roger Taylor in Grantham.

Marsh Sleaford spindle back

Thomas must have known Roger and Sophia Taylor as he was married in Grantham on the 26th July 1802, almost two years after Roger placed his advert in the Stamford Mercury seeking a journeyman Windsor chairmaker. He and his wife Helen were both living in Little Gonerby at the time of their wedding, which is only a few hundred yards from the centre of Grantham. The marriage was witnessed by Richard Hubbard (Chairmaker) and his wife Elizabeth. There is every possibility that all four joined Sophia Taylor at the funeral of her husband in Grantham on 22nd Oct 1801. It is no wonder that the chairs produced in Sleaford by Thomas Marsh, and later by his son James, were so similar to those manufactured in the workshop of Roger and Sophia Taylor in Grantham, shown above.

It seems that Richard Hubbard was the second person to set up a workshop for the production of windsor chairs in Grantham as he placed an advert in the Stamford Mercury in Sept 1807 seeking journeymen for that purpose. All the chairs stamped HUBBARD are distinctly different from Roger and Sophia Taylor’s model in that none have ever been recorded with a turned underarm support. I would suggest that Roger Taylor designed his chairs specifically for office and administration work connected to the Napoleonic War effort, which explains his frugal and cost cutting techniques, whereas Richard Hubbard designed his chairs for residential use for the expanding merchant classes.

Hubbard Grantham

I*Hubbard Grantham

Top chair signed HUBBARD GRANTHAM - produced in the workshop of Richard.
Bottom chair signed I*HUBBARD GRANTHAM - probably produced in the workshop of Richard’s son: John.

Marsh Sleaford side chair 

Thames Valley side chair

2 side chairs, dating from the early 19th century, sometimes known as Windsor stools when they were made. Top chair is signed MARSH SLEAFORD and the bottom is unsigned but displaying features associated with the Thames Valley makers. The Lincolnshire-made chair has the back hoop with a tapered socket joint where it meets the seat whereas the other has a  right-angle reduction in cross section and the resulting shoulder sits on the top of the seat.

The MARSH chair has plain back legs whereas the Thames Valley chair has decoration to all four legs, it also has an edge bead and an incised scribe mark around the edge of the upper surface of its seat along with two oblique spindles supporting the back bow, none of which appear on the Lincolnshire chair. 

Another feature which is well demonstrated by these two chairs is the decoration on the front legs. They both have the ring and cove design but their placement is quite different on each; whereas the Lincolnshire chairs always have the turnings well down the leg from the seat, it is so common to find the Thames Valley chairs have theirs so much closer to the seat.

Taylor Grantham side chair

Thames Valley side chair

2 comb back side chairs, the top being signed TAYLOR GRANTHAM while the bottom is unsigned but has features that would lead one to conclude that it was made in the Thames Valley area.

The Lincolnshire chair with the two outside large turned back supports, has tapered socket joints, bored through and wedged, as to be expected while the other has square section outside back supports which are abruptly reduced so that the shoulder sits on top of the seat slab. Every Lincolnshire comb back side chair that I have ever recorded has a plain design to the comb, as shown above, while the Thames Valley chair has a pleasingly decoration to edge, it also has an incised mark around the outside of the seat near to the edge of the upper surface whereas the Lincolnshire chair has no such decoration. The design of the back splat is typical of the Thames Valley, often being referred to as a wheelback, but signed Lincolnshire chairs do exist with this pattern, although they are very rare.

Only Lincolnshire makers made distinctive comb back armchairs with curved top, or cresting, rails and turned outer spindles; some have splats: first below unstamped, possibly TAYLOR; second below stamped G WILSON.

Unstamped Lincolnshire comb back possibly Taylor

Lincolnshire comb back G Wilson

Some have spindles; first below unstamped probably MARSH; second below stamped CAMM.
Unstamped Lincolnshire comb back probably Marsh
Lincolnshire comb back Camm
There is another group of chairs of distinctive appearance made from 1843 onwards at Caistor in Lincolnshire in the workshops of William Shirley and John Shadford. The chairs are high comb backs with readily identifiable spindles with bobbins and distinctive stiles (outer back members), arms, under arm supports and heavy leg turnings. Two are shown below.

Shirley/Shadford Caistor Rocking Chair
Shirley/Shadford Caistor armchair

 A variant was a lath back, with or without splat, as below.

Shirley/Shadford Caistor lath back splat back

Shirley/Shadford Caistor lath back
No chairs of this distinctive feel were made in Thames Valley or Nottinghamshire; there is some evidence that such chairs may have been made later in Hull after Caistor-trained makers moved north of the Humber.

William Shirley also made some high back splat back Windsors like the one below.


William Shirley junior high back

William Shirley junior stamp

These chairs are much rarer than the Caistor high comb backs.

It is my belief that the workshops in Lincolnshire that were involved in making Windsor chairs did not all run on the same principle. For instance, it appears that the business run by Thomas, and then his son James Marsh, in Sleaford had virtually no employees but the chairs were mainly made by themselves, whereas for those run by Richard Hubbard and John Amos in Grantham, there is convincing evidence that many journeymen were producing their own individual pattern of chair. This is in contrast with the chairs made in Boston by three generations of Thomas Simpsons who called themselves joiners, carpenters and cabinet makers but only once were they denoted as chairmakers. I have no doubt that in their workshop, there would be a bench that produced Windsor and other chairs, as demand dictated, and it would be used by different journeymen over the years. They could have completed their apprenticeship in other parts of the country before arriving in Boston. This could well explain the chair pictured below, as it is impressed with the mark of T SIMPSON BOSTON and, in my experience, is unique in that it has a tongue at the rear of the seat, supporting the two oblique spindles and an incised mark around the edge of the back bow. This chair demonstrates two important features. Firstly, that the characteristics highlighted in this article cannot be anything but guidelines and never rigid rules; secondly, that there is always the chance that some journeyman working for a Lincolnshire master, may have learnt his trade elsewhere in the country and could have produced an item with features from outside of the county. Nonetheless, the occurrence of a preponderant combination of the features distinguished above will usually lead to a clear identification of area of origin.

Simpson Boston

Exceptions that prove the rule are shown by the variability of the four signed AMOS GRANTHAM chairs on the next page: two incorporate the cut-out wheel motif in the back splat (usually called wheelback chairs) which has, in the past, always been attributed to the Thames Valley region. All the chairs’ other features point firmly to Lincolnshire.




© Sothebys

Further pointers distinguishing a Nottinghamshire from a Lincolnshire chair

There were two main centres of Windsor chairmaking in Nottinghamshire: Worksop and at first Retford (later focussed more on nearby Rockley and Gamston).


Only a handful of Nottinghamshire full size hoop back spindle back armchairs have been recorded. The type seems to have been reserved for low hoop back spindle back child’s chairs. The Nottinghamshire equivalent of the Lincolnshire hoop back spindle back was the hoop back splat back common low armchair. The picture below shows six chairs, each stamped by different makers from both Worksop and Rockley: all have fleur de lys splats with three long spindles either side, crinoline stretchers, three underarm spindles and the same arm turning; the back legs are never plain unlike in Lincolnshire. There are minor variations as to whether there are two rings or three on the legs. Later models have vase shaped feet; earlier ones have a ring and cove at the top and a single ring at the bottom. Ash is rarer than in Lincolnshire: yew and elm common.

© Christies South Kensington Lot 161 12 July 2005
The makers are William Wheatland ( fl. 1822-1828 ) John Whitworth ( fl. 1841-1851 ) George Nicholson ( fl. 1831-1841 ) Frederick Walker ( fl. 1823-1871 ) Elizabeth Gabbitass ( fl. 1839-1844 ) Isaac Allsop ( fl. 1841-1871 )

Nottinghamshire Worksop hoop back splat back best chairs are often very decorative as the next three pictures show.

Probably John Gabbitass, Worksop

Probably John Gabbitass or Benjamin or William Gilling, Worksop

Probably John Gabbitass © Wickersley Antiques

The splats and underarm and leg turnings are plainly more elaborate than Lincolnshire Windsors. The underarm notch is characteristic of Worksop chairs. Nottinghamshire best high chairs all have 4 long spindles either side of the splat and three underarms spindles each side, as do most best low chairs.

Three spindles either side of the splat is an almost invariable rule in a Lincolnshire hoop back splat back high chair so this feature makes distinguishing them relatively straightforward.

The other main centre of Nottinghamshire chair making was Rockley.

A Rockley rocker is shown below. This underarm turning is a clear Nottinghamshire characteristic. The fleur de lys splat is more elaborate than both Lincolnshire and Nottinghamshire common chairs with an elongated diamond piercing underneath that is rarely encountered outside Nottinghamshire.

Rockley rocking chair
Some early Rockley chairs have shaped underarm supports morticed into the side of the seat as below. This feature, also seen in Thames Valley chairs, is never seen in Lincolnshire.


Rockley armchair with shaped underarm supports possibly by William Wheatland

The Nottinghamshire hoop back splat back High smoker’s bow is shown below. Instantly recognisable, such models were common in Nottinghamshire (and particularly in Yorkshire) but none are known to have been made in Lincolnshire.

Nottinghamshire or S Yorkshire High Smoker's Bow © Wickersley Antiques


© William Sergeant, Lincolnshire Chair Museum, in collaboration with Julian Parker. September 2019.


More discussion and pictures are available at William Sergeant’s Flickr collection.